Not Another Bath Brush!

I think some MBS readers allow their enthusiasm for spanking to override any consideration for my well-being.

Look at this beast. A reader named Jack wants Randy to buy one and use it on my bottom. How could anyone take a solid wooden bath brush and make it even scarier? Why, they could drill holes in the head so it will be more painful when it strikes bare flesh. This is a particularly evil weapon of ass destruction.

If an eager reader cares to test this bath brush, I invite you to do so and write a review for us. I will happily publish it and feel relieved that it's not me for once.

Hot Squeals

My husband Randy has an ongoing project to convert all of his old physical photographs and videotapes to digital format. Last weekend, he dragged out an old shoebox that hasn’t been opened lately. Among the artifacts unearthed was a Polaroid photo of me in my college apartment. I was lying over a twin bed with my stone washed jean shorts and flowered bikini panties lowered. Angry red lines zigzagged across my shapely college student bottom.

“Ow!” I said when he handed me the faded snapshot. Then I spotted the source of my discomfort. Resting on my back was a 24-inch segment of orange plastic Hot Wheels track. Hot Wheels is a toy where small cars run along a configurable track. A quick check of Google reveals that plenty of other people know what it feels like to be spanked with Hot Wheels track.

A track segment is semi-flexible and has raised edges designed to keep the cars on the track. I think those edges contribute to the vivid marking. All these years later, I remember how much it hurt. It’s definitely a punishment implement.

Have you ever experienced a spanking with Hot Wheels track?

Experience the Legends

Long time spankophiles wax nostalgic about famous implements of the past. They're gone, but not forgotten. But wait, maybe they're not really gone.

In many cases, beloved and dreaded bottom warmers can still be located, purchased, and swung through the wonders of the internet.

In the interest of journalistic integrity, I must tell you that all of the implements featured here are famous for a good reason. That reason is that receiving a spanking with them can be quite painful. But sometimes, it's worth a sore bottom to experience the legend. And maybe even more than once just to be sure.

Here is a source for what used to be known as the Vermont Country Store bath brush (pictured at the top). This implement is ideal for delivering serious punishments. A spanking with this brush will be long remembered. It works equally well in OTK and bent over positions. Alas, VCS changed the design once they learned that the brush was popular for something other than scrubbing.

The Loopy Johnny (above) became famous as the quietest spanking implement (though silencing the recipient is a different matter). It turns out that they were never really gone. These little stingers are widely available from several vendors on Etsy.

Then there's what used to be called the Crabtree and Evelyn body brush (pictured above). I sometimes call it the dogleg because of its curved shape. It's an ideal size for OTK application and perfectly designed to deliver a burning lesson. For fans of traditional domestic discipline corporal punishments, this brush checks all the boxes. This product was also discontinued after we talked about it too much on the internet. But you can order the same brush here.

Next we have the Jokari Paddle. Jokari was a backyard and beach game that involved hitting a rubber ball back and forth using wooden paddles like the one pictured above. I'm not sure I ever saw anyone actually playing this game, but the paddle became a legendary adult punishment implement. It was so perfect for spanking that I hesitate to label it a pervertible. These can be found on eBay and elsewhere, but they can be pricey, especially for authentic originals in good condition. However, many paddle makers offer models that are similar in dimensions and weight. Here's one of my favorites.

One product that I never exprienced and have not been able to find is the Cracker Barrel paddle ball game (with or without the ball). It was like the old Fli-Back model, but thicker and sturdier (see the picture above). Cracker Barrel stopped selling them about twenty years ago and they are rare today. I thought there might be some on eBay, but I couldn't find that model. Perhaps our fellow enthusiasts already snapped them up. If you know a good source, please leave a comment and I will post an update.

Collecting and using these classic implements can spice up your relationship. As with any new toy, please proceed with caution until both partners become familiar with its effects.

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Feb 24

Our topic for this brunch was multiple implements. Here's what you had to say.

Reece Seever: Our sessions almost always involve multiple implements. Her favorites include a leather strap, fraternity-style paddle, bath brush, and the dreaded Loopy Johnny.

Abby: Our spankings often involve multiple toys. We usually start with a hand spanking and then move on. If I get to choose, it is a leather day. Master's preference is usually wood, except for His whip.

Hermione: We regularly use several implements. My husband chooses three from our wall rack and lays them out on the bed for me to see when I enter the bedroom. He also has the toy box open, and I may choose an additional weapon. I usually do, although there have been times when I have felt the chosen three were more than enough. Ron then uses each implement in turn through several cycles, until he decides I've had enough.

I enjoy the variety, and the switch from one to another provides a welcome change if one implement is especially ouchy, and it's followed by a more benign one. My husband likes to vary the way different implements are applied. He will deliver rapid strokes with a thin, light one, then slow steady whacks from a heavier, thuddy one.

I'm afraid I might find just one implement a little boring.

Houston Switch: We play with three implements: an English hair brush with a slightly convex curved wooden side with boar bristles, a wooden paddle shaped like a short frat paddle, and a resin cane that is very whippy.

For the most effective punishment, where ache will last long after the color has returned to normal, the spanking should be carried out in the order the implements are listed above. The brush is the warm up and doesn't effect much below the skin layer. The paddle can really transmit the energy deep into the butt. Deep bruising can occur. The cane returns to the surface of the butt, stimulating the skin after the paddle has numbed the deeper layers.

Using all three makes for a wonderfully warm, tingling experience.

Six of the Best: There are times when I've started out with a warm-up hand spanking, to get a glow on a feminine bare bottom, then ended with six of the best using a cane.

Our Bottoms Burn: I doubt we have ever had a session with only one implement. This morning, Bacall got out three wood paddles for her bottom. The sensation is different with each one.

While I like to use my hand, flaming her bottom with it is no longer worth flaming up my arthritis. I content myself with rubbing her bottom between paddle licks.

Sunny Girl: Yes, we use different implements. He usually chooses. Occasionally, I may suggest an implement and he most always honors my choice. I think different implements change the tempo and the feel of a spanking. It keeps one from anticipating what is coming next, which I think adds to the excitement.

Joeyred: When I am on the bottom, the top always uses more than one implement. I "enjoy" the variety during a spanking. My favorite scene involved a top who had me remove my belt and used it to spank me as the finale to a long scene.

As a top, I use my hand and a leather paddle. I really prefer my hand and I think the bottom prefers skin on skin contact. Sometimes, I use a cane if the bottom likes a good caning.


Terpsichore: I usually receive his hand, which is my favorite. However, occasionally a hairbrush, kitchen implement, or his belt will be playfully used. We do not have many implements at this point, other than what can already be found in the house, but I would love for my husband to experiment more and try new things. Even so, his hand is still my favorite.

Bea: Multiple implements? I wish. Wes grabs his weapon of choice and wails away. We have a homemade paddle carved out of a 2 x 6 ( I'm not kidding) that I call The Brick. It hurts bad. We have a little gem called a Singapore Stinger. It's well named. It's light and bendy. It'ss also very quiet - except for the noise I make. Then there are the ones that aren't so bad. Hand, spoon, belt. They come in at a level that I can manage.

If I knew that the amount of licks was limited with The Brick or The Stinger, I would be better able to handle it I think. Either one overwhelms me. How do I get him to back off without Wes losing control of the situation? Truth be told, I don't want to be spanked with anything during the spanking but the pain of those two implements terrify me.

I would encourage great caution with any wooden paddle over an inch in thickness. Perhaps “the Brick,” given a little varnish, might make a fine shelf.

Todd and Suzy: Playful type spankings usually feature several different implements. Sensation is more of a focus and changing things up helps there. Plus, building towards the harsher implements can act a bit as a warm-up. Discipline type spankings have an entirely different goal, so there it is usually just one implement.

Jean Marie: Abby and I think a lot alike on this subject. I always get it with his hand to begin. If it goes on, it escalates with harsher and harsher implements. If I get a say, I choose leather. If I'm being punished and he wants it to be distasteful, he selects from our wooden paddles.

Lea: My spankings usually involve a few different implements. I most often get a warm up by hand and the hand is still used throughout. My leather paddle gets used most frequently. There is sometimes a wooden paddle, strap, or cane as well.

Lady Koregan: I also usually use multiple implements while spanking. After feeling the same implement for a while, bottoms tend to "tune out" a little. Switching implements keeps the feeling fresh and the spankee fully "awake" and feeling every swat.

Archedone: It appears that most of us use multiple implements. The least we use is three. She always starts spanking me with the whip. She likes to watch the lines form. Then it's on to the paddle, spoon, strop, spanking stick, and belt. For me, each of these has its own sting and feel. I'm not allowed to see which implement she is going to use next. After the first swat, she sometimes asks me what she is using.

Simon: I live a long way from my Mistress. When I get to see her, the punishment sessions last a considerable amount of time. Over this time, she uses a variety of implements. A typical afternoon involves a number of different straps, paddles and usually finishes off with the cane. Less regularly, she may use a carpet beater or a riding crop. Each implement has its own feel and changes are part of the fun. I do have favourites and, of course, there are implements that I don't enjoy as much. Unfortunately (for me at least), my favourites aren't necessarily hers.

S: It's D's choice, but we nearly always start with bare hand on bare bot. If it is a long one, leaving me smarting and burning happily, that's it. But if it is a short, sharp warm up, I know there is more to come. Perhaps it might be a session with the hairbrush, whilst still OTK. Then I lay over our spanking trestle or a chair for whatever takes his fancy. Paddles, wood or leather, slippers, straps, a plastic ruler (very stingy) or any of the special spanking tools in our collection. Occasionally, he ends with our thin cane. It's not my favourite. It makes me yelp, and causes sitting problems later, but it does leave me very eager for the final part of our session.

Abby Williams: We too enjoy multiple implements, somewhat because we like to end with the cane, and a spanking that begins with the cane is a very different type of spanking! But we also like to explore my various reactions with implements, as they vary from time to time. The last time we used our London Tanner's boudoir leather paddle, it made me hiss like a mountain lion. Quite surprising!

I like for Mr. W to pick the implements for any particular session because I get anxious and worry that I won't pick whatever he's been fantasizing about, whereas my main fantasy is just giving myself up to him, so while I do have my favorites, he picks and usually includes at least one that I like more than the others. I'm enjoying reading that many of your other readers also prefer the multiple implement tactic, though I dare say, my fiction would be shorter if I could just focus on one at a time. I wouldn't want to wish for shorter, more focused playtime, though.

Kaelah: It's interesting to see that spankings involving a variety of implements seem to be the norm for so many fellow spankos. Since Ludwig isn't so much into very long scenes and since we both like cold canings, our spankings often involve one implement only, mostly the hand or the cane. Our spankings which involve more than just one implement often consist of two parts – hand plus x.

But we have also had spankings involving multiple implements, for various reasons. My very first spanking, for instance, involved the hand, a paddle and a cane, because I wanted to know how all these implements feel and we wanted a gradual build-up. We also tried out selections of different whips and canes belonging to friends. And I used several different implements on Ludwig when I started topping, in order to get used to handling them. Last but not least, we also had spankings with a variety of implements in some of our fun clips, either giving our readers the chance to participate by voting for their favourite implement or in order to distinguish between votes from long-time readers and real delurkers on LOL Day.

Prefectdt: I cannot remember receiving (or giving for that matter) a spanking that was not multiple implement. Perhaps it is time to try a mono implement spanking, just for comparison.

Bonnie: As I've described before, my husband enjoys keeping me off balance during a spanking. He achieves this by preventing me from anticipating what will happen next. Implements are a big part of his surprises. Sometimes, he stops a session right in the middle to fetch something else. Other times, he pretends to grab a new implement then continues with his previous plan. I just never know what to expect. Even when I think I know, he reaches behind him to retrieve a pre-stashed toy.

In the end, I wind up just where he wants me – in his hands.

Thanks to everyone who joined in our brunch this week!

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Nov 28

Our question this week dealt with innocent-looking but effective spanking implements.

Michael: Our number one pervertable is the hairbrush. I don't even think you can classify it as a pervertable anymore as even vanilla people know it has that use. It's almost like a dual purpose item now. You can pack it in your suitcase and a customs or security officer wouldn't give it a second look. You can have it out in plain sight on a table or even handle it in front of people, though even a non-spanko may tell you that it is rude to brush your hair in the middle of a conversation and suggest you should be paddled with that brush. Just a happy, squirmy thought for you, Sue. :)

Luna: Just about anything can become a spanking implement.

Consider belts, shoes, hair brushes, books (get out that Gideon Bible!), the bungee straps some people use on their luggage, rope used for the same purpose can be folded up into an impromptu flogger... And don't forget your hands.

PK: I believe the two most easily explained vanilla items would be the hair brush and the belt. Both are extremely effective spanking implements! Others that come to mind would be slippers or sandals. You can find some extremely good for spanking even if they might not be your style for wearing.

Ida Virgin: Besides the ever beloved hairbrush, I'm not sure. I've been spanked with a book before, but I suspect that after a few swats it would become a bit unwieldy to use.

On Her Knee: Nothing is as discreet yet extremely effective as a nice hefty well made wooden hairbrush, or even better a nice heavy clothes brush. The problem is finding a good one these days. They don’t have to be real big. The small wooden ones sold for a few dollars at Wal-Mart actually pack a lot of sting in every swing. These may lack the oomph for “sink the pain into the muscle” action, but they are still a fine bargain.

Anon #1: A pair of women's open-toed sandals, with a thin leather sole, make a nice spanking toy. The ones with a very low heel are easier to hold when you're spanking with them. The leather sole stings like a belt, but it is a bit wider and makes that nice "cracking" sound.

Jac: If you need something silent in the hotel room, you can use a cable. It can be a cable which connects your mobile telephone with a computer or mobile charger.

Anon #2: If your hotel has a swimming pool, a pair of pool sandals or flip-flops could find another use!

Prefectdt: I had a long list in my head before I read the previous comments. Beyond what has already been mentioned, I can add shoe horns. They come in all sizes and are made from lots of different materials like wood, bamboo, plastic and (gulp!) metal. As a result, there are plenty of sensations and severity levels to choose from.

Hermione: For minimum size and maximum effectiveness, how about a pair or two of leather bootlaces? They're lightweight and easy to conceal inside a pair of shoes.

Pink: I don't know too many people who travel with a wooden spoon, but that is one everyday item that shouldn't raise too many alarms.

Another would be a bath brush. However, I don't recommend that to ANYONE.

R Humphries: Actually, Miss Pink, a wooden spoon is a perfectly innocuous travel companion. On one occasion, I insisted on taking my favorite Peruvian spoon and a flat-headed spatula on a trip. The ever ingenious MBJ tossed a chef's hat, which I acquired at some point in life’s rich tapestry, into my suitcase. We also have a fabulous ping-pong bat leather paddle. I just went to the local sports store and bought a cover and a box of three balls. You just need to be creative, Sue.

Make Mine Red: My first thought was the hairbrush, of course. We have a flexible ruler that I bought at Walmart that really stings. I suppose it wouldn't look at all suspicious to pack a ruler if you also packed some pencils and a sketchpad. :)

Gracie Malling: I think I'm just echoing what others have said above, but I would suggest: a (preferably wooden) hairbrush (or several :-) ), a bathbrush, a ruler (we have a long plastic one which is totally evil - but at least it looks less obviously kinky than an old fashioned wooden one), slippers/flip-flops, and definitely a belt. Also, Mr M has a small suitcase-sized cane that we tend to take on holiday, but I'm not entirely sure how you could de-kinkify that. ;-)

S: Hairbrushes are great, but D has a large wooden clothes brush, which really hurts. Plastic rulers are swishy and very stingy. A big soft-soled bedroom slipper makes a thunderous whack on my bare bum, but does not sting much. A rubber soled tennis shoe, in contrast, really stings, and stops me playing tennis due to the tomato red state of my rear beneath my very short tennis skirt!

Scunge: Bamboo anything really packs a sting. You can get a bamboo backscratcher. We bought ours at Bed,Bath and Beyond, but I'm sure they are available elsewhere. ;)

Ronnie: Hairbrushes and belts are always good, very packable, and no one is the wiser. There are also wooden or plastic rulers and hotel slippers.

My husband once used a short, thin green cane like the sort you buy in garden centres. He borrowed it from a plant pot in the hotel hall when we were visiting Dublin.

Houston Switch: You could also use a phone cable (the kind you would plug into a phone and the other end into the wall jack) or a short network cable. Both of these can be easily carried with a laptop and no one will think twice, except the bottom. :)

Val: My new laptop has an AC adapter that is 7" long and 2.5" wide, 1/2" thick, and weighs (and hurts) as much as a heavy wooden hairbrush of the kind that they just don't make anymore nowadays. (sigh) The power cable is a sort I hadn't seen before. It's very flexible and round, not the stiff, coiled, lightweight stuff. Yum.

Second, think of the two tubes or rails inside your carry-on case . In mine, one of them holds a 1/4" delrin cane. The other holds a full length 22" rattan stick, which is adequate. I have seen the case image in the machine at the airport. At least to my eye, no one can tell.

Daisy: Other than the suggestions mentioned above, you can borrow the springy wire thing that holds up the net curtains in the room you stay in. It's like a vicious loopy johnny and it does not need to be used very hard to hurt like the very devil. It's therefore very quiet (the recipient won't be quiet, though!).

Bonnie: My husband, Randy, has long had a favorite spanking implement. It's an inexpensive curved handled wooden body brush like this one. It looks innocent, but I can attest that this brush is very, very effective.

Sue asked me to thank everyone for your excellent suggestions. I hope you'll stop back next weekend for more good conversation.

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Oct 18

Our topic this week was sources for spanking implements. Here are your ideas.

RPT (Fred Bloggs): The Home Depot and Wal-Mart kitchen department are better than sex shops to the totally perverted looking for pervertibles. Online, I use eBay. Yay for kinky folk selling implements. Search for Kinky, Spanking or Fetish.

The London Fetish fair is wonderful to browse around.

R Humphries: There are some great purveyors of specialist wares on the net. Adam and Gillian, Canes4Pain and The London Tanners are all superb. For caniacs, I'd highly recommend the Deluxe Cane from Adam and Gillian. It comes with a handy protective carrying case and a storage scabbard.

However, some of the great finds are happened upon unexpectedly, We have a 99 cent flat-faced wooden spatula that My Beloved Jojo calls the 'skin-sucker.' We found it in Wal-Mart. Maybe best of all, There's a wooden spoon I came across while exploring the Northern Andes in Peru. It's made from perished wood and is ideal for close-in OTK operations. Keep your eyes peeled and you'll find great spanking instruments in the most unlikely of venues!

Katia: Most of my implements have been gifts from girlfriends, which I always love to reciprocate.

The few I have purchased have come from Cane-iac. I am in the process of having John from Leather Thorn Paddles make me a custom one as a gift for my hubby.

I have to wonder how many people have ended up with those cooking implements that Luke tested on my tush in the department stores. :)

Charlie: I find that the best place is my wood working shop. I love finding some exotic wood and making a lovely paddle – with or without holes. I then put on some extra finish to give it that perfect ouch!

Spanky: I vote for home improvement places like Lowe's or Home Depot. They are a good source for 5-gallon paint stirrers, which make amazing spanking implements. They are given away free if you ask. Be sure to give them a good sanding before you use them though. We've been using the same one for several years, and I really like it. There are lots of other pervertables at such stores, too.

Hermione: I like checking out the kitchen supply websites for spoons and spatulas. Willams-Sonoma and Ashton Green stock great kitchenware pervertibles of high quality. They are heavy enough to make an impact and durable so they won't break. Pottery Barn is a good source for bath brushes.

For riding crops, whips and bats, try a local tack shop, or order from Horse Tack Co.

My favourite places to browse are thrift shops and flea markets. If they sell clothing, there are always plenty of thick, supple leather belts and slippers, and who knows what else you might find?

Anon VII: I remember, back in the '70s, there were a lot of bumper stickers throughout the South and Southwest that read, "When in doubt, whup it out" (it's a bad pun under the circumstances, I know!). Well, I've "whupped out" several implements for us, since we've not been satisfied with much we've found. One exception was the fantastic paddle she found at a local place called simply “The Toy Store.” She also found our favorite spanking attire for her there, plus a pair of absolutely ridiculous, but useful, platform shoes at a flea market.

Online has been a flop. Ergo, I've made most of our implements. Our favorite is a long paddle that's thin and hard,. It's wider at the business end than at the swinging end to give it added momentum and has a couple of small metal strips epoxied to the end on the outer side to add to the impact. ,I added a thick coat of varathane on the impact side to make it almost like Lexan, but without the weight. Both the sound and the effect are similar to leather, but with added force and bite. Another favorite is a thick leather paddle that I fashioned from a piece of an industrial machine belt scavenged from an old factory that was being torn down.

Jean Marie: I'm the Queen of Pervertibles!

I got a large-headed rubber spatula at a Tupperware party, and then had to sit and wait for everyone to leave my house before my lover could try it out on me. It's one of my favorites!

I inherited a razor strap from my Grandpa's estate, but it was stiff and cracked. So imagine my glee when I found a better quality one at a yard sale! And from Grandma, I got a rattan carpet-beater that is lethal.

My boyfriend will go shopping with me, just so we can rummage around together. For example, he'll veer off from me in a shoe store to buy a pair of Keds tennis shoes. The pebbly soles really smart, almost as much as a flat rubber soled pair of bedroom slippers he bought to paddle me. In the Beauty Supply store, he'll try out every flat wooden hairbrush against the palm of his hand until I'm so turned-on that I have to leave. In the hardware store, there are slender wooden dowls (homemade canes), lengths of rubber hose, even just an extension cord can be applied with excellent results.

Handsdown: Thank you all so much for posting responses to my question. I've also found my most beloved wooden spoon in the kitchen department at Wal-Mart. I'm also looking at a bread board with a handle. It would be so cool if some of you who make your implements could also post a picture. If you have your own blogs or somewhere to post it. I love home-fashioned implements and the stories behind them (pun intended). LOL I've not been too satisfied with what I've found online so far, but I will check out some of the sites y'all have listed. Again, thanks everyone.

Todd and Suzy: The best place is probably online from a professional company or person that has a good reputation. We especially like those that are actually spankos themselves. The folks at Cane-iac, The London Tanners and our friend Amber race to mind. I would avoid adult bookstore type places. While they usually do have spanking paddles and the like, they're usually low quality and overpriced. Adam and Eve is pretty bad too. It seems easy to find problems when you drift away from the spanko-specific market. We like to keep our money in the community anyway.

As for pervertibles, there are so-so many places. It really depends on what you're looking for. Department stores that sell kitchen implements, errr, items are pretty good. We like antique stores too. But simple places like Wal-Mart and dollar stores are pretty good too. They're everywhere! You just have to look.

Ms. Betty: Your local thrift store is one of the best places for pervertables. Look for shoe horns, spatulas, cutting boards, back scratchers, and odd little wooden knick knacks. The list is endless. I even managed to pick up a functional whip at the one where I work. Oh, and I also found a handy 100 feet of marine rope, but that's another story.

A few months ago, I posted on my blog some pictures of things I've found at my store. It's only the tip of the iceberg. At least once a week, I bring home something useful for warming bottoms. My latest finds were a nice thick hardwood ruler and a hand carved salad fork and spoon set from Ghana.

A few years ago, I even found a nice thick oak paddle with holes at a Salvation Army. You have to do some digging, but any second-hand store is likely to be a pervertable gold mine.

As for new, at least one strap from The London Tanners is a must.

Missy: Online specialty shops tend to be too pricey for me. My favourite implement is a lovely reddish brown Italian calfskin belt I got at the St. George rummage sale (in Gramercy Park) for $3. It's beautiful to wear as a belt as well (a purely secondary concern, LOL). Ironically, the sweet-faced woman who rang it up exclaimed,"What a beautiful belt! This is such a good buy." And later added,"Enjoy your belt." If only she knew!

I wonder if rummage sales in affluent neighborhoods in Kentucky ever sell riding crops?

Anon: The Loveless Cafe has a guitar shaped cutting board that is PERFECT for spanking! This is a must-have item. My girlfriend loves getting spanked with this.

Our Bottoms Burn: Our favorite toys come from our workshop. I cut and shape and Becall sands and varnishes them. It's fun to find out how a piece of wood will feel when made into a paddle.

Betina: In my country, there are not many spanking stores (at least not near where I live). Therefore, I tend to make implements myself or look at the local recycle store. Here you can get great wide leather belts for about two dollars and they can be made into straps and leather paddles.

I made a few wooden paddles and I love hairbrushes too. I also love the flat summer sandals like espadrilles. They are 5-10 dollars and have a sole made of weaved hemp with a rubber finish underneath. There is a good weight and sting in those. They are similar to the feel of a hand, but more ouch effect.

When I go shopping in general, I can't help but notice an object that could maybe have an alternative use.

Mary: The London Tanners have wonderful leather items. The quality is amazing and the feel is divine.

S.N.M.: I have never gone shopping for toys (I've never gotten a chance to play with toys either, unfortunately). However, having tested out a number of pervertables on myself, I think I can confidently say that any store that sells basic kitchenware can satisfy your spanko needs. For cutting boards, spoons, spatulas, etc., Wal-Mart is just fine.

Ronnie: I like kitchen shops (for wooden spoons and spatulas), stationery shops (for wooden and plastic rulers), and DIY stores.

We've bought riding crops and schooling whips from Croft Equestrian.

I recommend Cane-iac and John from Leather Thorn Paddles. His leather paddles are really lovely and both give excellent service.

eBay is another good place.

Radha: The local hardware store is a favorite of ours. We're always there anyway and it's always fun to find a pervertable, or think of various ways to DIY an implement.

Dr. Ken: I don't know about pervertibles, but the best place I've found for implements is The London Tanners. My favorites (so far) are the Ruler Strap and the Boudoir Strap.

Bonnie: My husband, Randy, sees many common objects as potential bottom-warmers. With that sort of ingenuity afoot, I don't have to look very hard.

I think everyone's suggestions are excellent, so there isn't that much left to add. If you want a real fraternity/sorority paddle, try a university bookstore. A few tourist traps in the rural US still sell those cute novelty paddles. They're typically not especially effective, but they are fun as spanko collector's items.

You can find heavy hairbrushes, both wooden and plastic, at a beauty supply store. Then there's eBay, the world's garage sale, for those really unusual pervetibles.

Thanks to everyone who added their experience and expertise to our discussion. I hope you'll join us again next weekend.

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for June 14

Our topic of the week was the ritual of fetching spanking implements. Here are your thoughts.

Jean Marie: It's an oft-observed ritual in our household. More times than I'd like to recall, just after my bum has been prepared with a hand-spanking warm-up, I'll hear, "Please go bring me your hairbrush, young lady." It puts me all the deeper in that sub-space to have to fetch the implement I detest so that it can thrash my derriere. But I've learned from experience not to complain. The only thing I hate hearing more is, "Bring me the cane while you're up, that'll be act III."

Sara: I rarely touch implements at all, thus the few times I have been asked to fetch one stand out. I think it definitely heightens anticipation... and not always in a good way!

Penfold: Bear has often asked me to go and collect the hairbrush from the drawer or the cane from the wardrobe, especially for domestic discipline. It gives me the jelly wobbles. But for a good long, sexy spanking when I get to pick out my "toy of choice," I love the anticipation. I know it does add something to the fun that is about to happen.

Anon #1: To me, there is nothing sexier than giving a beautiful young woman a long and thorough hand spanking and then seeing the look on her face when I ask her to go get the wooden spoon. The little moaning sounds she makes and the sight of her naked, already reddened ass jiggling as she reluctantly leaves the room to get the spoon are just incredible.

Sadly, I've never been put in that position myself. I keep ending up with submissives. Someday, I'll hopefully find myself in the company of a dominant bedmate who will turn the tables.

Ms. Betty: This little ritual happens to be a favorite of mine. I think it adds a certain formality to the proceedings. I don't always ask him to fetch the implement, but when I do, it makes a big impact.

I sent Terry out to cut a switch the other day. I think he went to pieces instantly.

I use a couple of other variations on the same theme, such as placing several implements on the table and making the boy choose one and bring it to me. They hate that.

My very favorite, though, is using the boy's own belt, including making him take it off and place it in my outstretched waiting hand. That deliberate act of surrender tends to make them much more submissive.

There is definitely more anticipation waiting for an implement to be fetched. I find it exciting. The boys tend to dread it a bit.

Dr. Ken: The majority of the time, I spank by hand, hence there's no need for the spankee to go get it – well, unless she wants to hold hands as we walk to the chair or sofa or bed where the spanking will take place.

There have been a couple of instances where it's happened, though. I was giving a lovely lady a very thorough spanking, but she felt like she needed something more. So I told her to get off of my lap and go into the other room and open the middle drawer of the dresser. I had three implements in there, and I told her to pick one out and bring it back with her.

She surprised me by picking a very stout hairbrush! I think I may have even looked at her and said, "Really?" It's what she thought she needed, though, so she got the brush applied vigorously to her bottom – and she was right, it did the trick!

Months later, the same lady and I were together again, and the same situation arose. I sent her into the other room to pick out an implement. This time, rather than pick one, she actually brought them all back – not because she wanted them all used, just that she couldn't decide! While she was mulling it over, I remembered that weeks earlier I had promised her a good spanking with the hairbrush, so I picked it up and said, "I think I promised you this." She agreed, and once again brush met bottom for a good long time.

It definitely changes the dynamic by adding another layer to the scene. I don't know that I would want to do it every time. It might lose it's effectiveness that way. But used sparingly, it definitely adds a certain something...

Anon #2: I always like to ask her how many whacks she thinks she should get. She chooses the number and the paddle or belt. I will write down on a paper how many I think she should get. If she is too low, she gets my number plus the difference. When she is fetching the belt, she has just given me the number and hasn’t found out the results. If she gives me a higher number, that is what she gets. It is all about the risks, the thoughts, and all that is in her head when she is getting the paddle. We both love the game. We rarely spank serious numbers or too hard because it’s for sexy fun.

Daisy: Davey often expects me to go fetch the implements. It adds a quiver of apprehension to the proceedings. Once, I tried to tell him I couldn't find what he wanted, because I hated it so much. He turned the tables on me by using an even WORSE tool!

And then I got extra because he KNEW I was trying to cheat. And after THAT he ordered me to fetch the original tool whereupon he spanked me with THAT as well for my disobedience and for being disrespectful enough to think he wouldn't know what I was up to. Damn, that man reads me like a child’s comic book. I don't try to outwit him like that any more!

Hermione: Our implements are usually close at hand before we start. Ron will have chosen what he wants to use, or he may ask me what I would prefer from what's available.

His motto is "tried and true" while mine is "try something new." When I have a new implement that I think it's time to try, I get it out ahead of time and put it on Ron's bedside table. It does make me think carefully as I bring whatever I have chosen out of its hiding place, and I imagine how it will make its impact. Then I usually leave quickly, before I can change my mind, and spend the remaining time until the spanking in a mixture of excitement, anticipation and dread.

Abby: Every now and again, Mr. W has asked me to fetch an implement, but for the most part, he takes them to hand himself. My reaction when asked, though, is usually one of defiance, even if it's not expressed externally. I don't want to have to bring the implement to him. I want to have it brought to me.

I think what I don't like about it is that it adds a level of consent by obeying and bringing the correct implement. (Obviously, consent is a must, but for play purposes, one doesn't always want to say, "Go ahead, spank me!") For me, it feels like saying, "Yes, that was an excellent choice, here you go," even if I am dreading the object at hand. I prefer to at least pretend that I'm not anxiously awaiting each toy's touch, and I like the feeling of being completely surrendered to whatever he picks up.

Mike (aka Ireland): As the spankee I find it humbling to have to fetch an implement and hand it over. It certainly adds to the experience.

As the spanker, I hope it adds the same excitement for my spankee. Sometimes, I make it interesting though. Like moving an implement. Then I have the spankee find it, with the spanking proportional to the length of time it took to find it.

Meow: My two most hated orders from Lash were, "Bring the strap" and "Bring the spoon."

Jay: Nope. I’ve never had to fetch an implement for a spanking. I have been told to return a few though... from where I hid them.

I think it would be nice to try that though, and I am totally safe saying that here because Worzel doesn’t read this blog. Ha ha ha ha ha ha hah!

S: My bare bottom is upwards over the chair back, and a stingy hair brush is whacking away at it. My poor old bottom is getting very hot and sore. At last it stops. Wow, I think that was a spanking and a half, but that's that. I’m about to get up when I hear, "Now Susan, go and get the paddle." Oh no, but there’s no use arguing with David. I straighten up, waddle over to the drawer, knickers round my knees, skirt around my waist, and collect that big paddle. I hand it humbly to David before bending over again tightening the skin of my already sore bottom for his further attention. I can take quite a bit spankwise, but this pause in the middle, and having to assist with the next bit, really increases its effect!

Michelle: Once in a while, we go a step further, and my husband will have me lay out all of our implements so that just what he wants is right at hand.

Laying them out or fetching them heightens the excitement. I like the anticipation of knowing that I'll soon be bent over feeling the sting or thud or thwack of whatever I've brought/put out.

Zille: When we were first dating, my Master was bringing his very well-filled toy bag over to my place for our, um, assignations, and one time, he told me to choose three items that he would use on me. What a quandary! I didn't want to choose the ones that were obviously the "wimpiest," because that would be possibly grounds for using the worst one on me! But I didn't want to accidentally choose the worst of the lot... But I wasn't sure which the "middle ground" ones were! So I tentatively made my choices, while he looked on with an evil grin, enjoying my dilemma all too much! When I'd picked the three, he said, "Are you sure...?" and I gulped, "Um, are these *bad* choices?" "Well, I certainly wouldn't have picked them!" he replied with a wicked laugh, and set about to using them on me!

I think the worst though is that when we are going to do figging, he'll order me to go peel and prepare and prepare the ginger that will shortly be shoved up my bottom, burning and tormenting me! Let me tell you, that does put a person in a strange head-space!

The same goes with birch rods, but we've only done those once. Still, being ordered to go make the birch rods that he will then beat me with... Well, it's really just a strange sort of foreplay, isn't it?

Bonnie: Randy is fond of this ritual because it adds an emotional edge to the proceedings. He knows that for me, having to retrieve an implement crosses the line between compliance and complicity. As Abby suggests, the spanking is no longer something he does to me, but rather an act in which I am an active and approving participant.

The spanko mind being what it is, this request for explicit endorsement is a tremendous turn-on for me. I can’t just lie there passively and take my swats. I must invite them. The tension created by that moment of indecision and its inevitable resolution lie at the very core of my submission. Each time I choose to place my body in Randy’s loving hands, I reaffirm our bond. Each time he rewards my commitment, our relationship grows stronger.

Thanks to everyone who joined us this week!

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Apr 12

Our topic this week was spanking implements that might be better hidden. Here are your thoughts.

Jay: Yes! Phil has a clothes brush that I really wish did not exist. I have tried to hide it on the last two spanking dates, but he either finds it or spanks the location out of me.

Grrrr. I hate that bloody brush.

Abby: I'm really not a fan of anything wooden (rattan not counting as wood), so if we were to get rid of anything, it would be everything with a hard-backed surface. That includes the hair brush, clothes brush, bath brush, and paddle. I hate the bath brush the most. Fortunately, I have no idea what became of it. I think I might have hidden it and forgotten where I put it.

Speaking of Easter eggs, my mom used to hide plastic eggs and forget where they were, so we'd find them year round. The same could be said of my house and spanking toys.

That brush is the only implement that really made me angry. Maybe because I love bubble baths and it stung like you know what, and I did not like the blending of the two. Really, though, I am SO glad it's gone.

Daisy: There is no point trying to hide any implement because it just makes Davey all the more determined to use it! And he doesn't look for it, he just tells me to get it, and I dare not disobey!

Texringer: It’s funny you should mention this topic. My partner and I were just discussing such a thing this morning. I threatened to hide away the big leather tawse because that thing HURTS. He reminded me, though, that on the occasions when I need a disciplinary spanking for missing gym workouts, the one I need to have is the one I really hate.

Dave the Rave: I'm sure that regardless what someone tries to hide, they would be forced to 'fess up or get it ten times worse.

Soma: Like Abby, I hate the wooden bathbrush. Unfortunately, I'm not so lucky in that mine has not been misplaced. It sits right under my bed in easy reach. I've contemplated hiding it, but I know that if I do, I'll get it much worse after it's found. I've considered getting rid of it, but I've been informed that if I do, he'll just buy another one. And the new one would be even heavier and thicker. I will very much regret getting rid of the bathbrush. Gulp. I'll just live with it I guess!

Jean Marie: When I first read the question, I immediately thought of that f***ing cane. I've howled beneath that thing so many times. It's definitely the worst implement in our collection.
But then I realized that if it were hidden, I wouldn't see those lovely marks that I enjoy on my bottom for days thereafter.

So I'll stay out of trouble with the boyfriend and not hide anything, and face the music when need-be.

Prefectdt: I have this white synthetic cane that was sold under the name “White Lightning.” I’m not really sure what it is made of, but you can bend it almost to a circle and it will not break (yes, I was trying to break it). It is hell in stick form. It’s only for use for genuine punishment.

Penfold: Bear has a new "toy." Until recently, we used a silly cane from a sex shop. But now he has invested in a proper 3 foot rattan school cane with a proper handle and everything. That thing freaking hurts!

But also, like Jay, we also have a clothes brush that is rather evil too. My sympathies to your poor butt, Jay! I know that feeling well.

Oh, and every time I’m cooking, Bear finds anything he can get his hands on and "plays" with it on my poor peach. MMMMM. I think I will be hiding most of the utensil jar by the cooker!

Her Master: My woman would definitely say the rubber spatula. We have joked that it is truly her punishment tool. She got to feel it in one of her first spankings, when I was trying out different things… and she said right away how she hated it.

I've now made a habit of carefully perusing the kitchen tool aisles, which she thinks is hilarious...

And yes, she finally used it on me yesterday... and it stings like crazy!

S: Jay is right about the clothes brush. It's broad and heavy, and covers a lot of bottom with a really evil sting. After a couple of dozen with that, I really do not want to sit for some time! What's worse, it can sit innocently on the hall table, without attracting attention, except from me, and it seems to gloat at my rear every time I pass it.

Hermione: Our belt is best kept hidden from view when not on the agenda. Its eye-catching colour would attract any visitor's attention. Ron hid the backscratcher after we had experimented with it. I found it two weeks later, hanging on the dining room wall in plain sight. I like the dressage whip to stay out of sight and out of mind, except on very special occasions. It's too extreme for regular use.

Tiggs: The answer is YES! But the specifics of the items in question change depending on Dante's mood. LOL! I've even tried hiding stuff in the past, but it's always come back to haunt me in more ways than one... Still, I try anyway! I guess it's the brat in me!

Cowgirl: There WAS an implement like that. It found its way into the fireplace and is now non-existent.

No, I didn't get in trouble for putting it ablaze. I hated Chase's cherry-wood stick so much that he let me burn it as a graduation gift after I completed my master's degree.

Now, I just hate the cedar paddle that he made, but it’s his favorite so that one will be around for a long time.

Bonnie: The dreaded Mother of All Paddles seems like an obvious choice, but it’s probably too big to burn, bury, or conceal. Besides, Randy has an almost unlimited supply of items that are well suited to the job of reddening my seat. We’ve been collecting them for years.

Futile as it might be, there is one pervertable I wouldn’t mind losing. I have a narrow, solid plastic hairbrush that’s just the right size to fit in a small handbag. It looks a lot like this one:


It’s not very large or scary, but with a swift flick of my lover’s wrist, this brush can become a real terror. Since it’s so small, he sees no reason not to apply it to my bare bottom with great gusto. Those hard, rapid-fire strokes very quickly gain my undivided attention. I’ve been spanked with this brush three of the last four nights and I have developed quite a healthy respect (not to mention a mighty sore posterior). I might just have to accidentally leave it somewhere…

Thank you all for participating in this week’s brunch!

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Mar 1

Our topic this week was recommendations for a first implement purchase. Here are your thoughts.

Anon: For us, using toys that have a more well-known purpose helped ease my wife into spanking. Most grocery stores have wooden spoons, large rubber spatulas, and other household items that can be used for OTK fun. Go to Home Depot or any hardware store and buy a short length of weather stripping, it can provide a nice sting.

Rogue: Assuming they are well-versed in preventables like the hairbrush and the belt, I would recommend that their first purchase be a leather paddle with enough flex that is it a good in-between implement

Soma: I'd also recommend a leather paddle if you want to go for a new spanking implement. That was my first implement outside of the typical household items like hairbrushes and such. Plus, I wanted to experience leather, but didn't feel ready for the belt as it makes me really nervous. So a leather paddle seemed like a good start! I absolutely love mine! :)

Indy: I recommend the London Tanners’ 17 x 2 in spanking strop, in the Barbershop section of the LT website. Ian's toys don't come cheap, but if that's not a key consideration, their quality is superb. The strap I've recommended isn't too severe, and I loved it almost immediately. It's short enough to use OTK if you'd like, and it's wide enough that the blow is spread out, much more than it is for a wooden spoon – eek!

My only complaint about it is that I can't get my hand comfortably around the handle to use OTK or on a spankee who is lying on a bed. I have to use it with a tennis racket grip, with a spankee bent over a bed or similar. So if you're a female top or a man with smallish hands, you might want to go for the 1.5 inch model.

I think the leather paddle is a good suggestion too. I recently bought the Nanny Paddle from the LT, and it can be used sensually or quite stingily, depending on your preferences.

Whatever you buy, I hope you enjoy it!

Tiberius: As above, I favor a leather paddle. The reason is that it's easy to gauge the intensity. With something like a belt, there’s often no middle ground between too soft to feel and a big sting.

With a leather paddle, you can tap and gradually increase the intensity. Plus, there's nothing else that really sounds as good as leather on a bare ass.

Tiggs: I suggest something simple and versatile, such as a ping-pong paddle, short leather strap, or even a small leather paddle.

That way, they can both learn how the implement feels in their hands or on their bottoms and take time building up to full effect.

Plus, that keeps the FUN at the root of it all, so boredom or negative influences don't slip into the mix.

Hermione: From my own experience, I know that it's easy to move to implements that are perhaps more severe than someone new to spanking would be comfortable with. If this couple has already been experimenting with pervertables, then they've discovered how much a hairbrush can hurt. Riding crops can also inflict too much pain.

I think leather is the way to go, both because it's my own personal preference and because it isn't as harsh as wood. I would suggest a small leather paddle to start with. A slapper makes a lot of noise, which is always fun, but doesn't hurt much. They can later try something larger or thicker.

But that's my preference. The couple involved should also consider their own preferences, and what item resonates with them, or simply looks like something they want to try. A lot depends upon the force with which an implement is used, so if, say, a wooden paddle really appeals to them, then by all means they should go for it.

Abby: I'm going to have to jump on the leather paddle bandwagon too. I suggest something small for starters, nine inches long or so, no more than two inches wide, with enough give that it can be used for slapping (playfully or punishingly) as well as used more forcefully for sting and a growing red glow. Also, it should have finished edges. For some reason, many of the typical sex shop leather paddles are left with sharp, unfinished edges. Leather, under no circumstances, should be sharp!

As for what should be avoided? The cane! If both parties are new to it, the top should absolutely wait until his/her aim is perfect with other implements, and even then, he or she should practice on an inanimate object, like a throw pillow, to gain both accuracy and understanding of its use. I also agree with Hermione that riding crops can inflict too much pain. It's surprising but true. It's just my personal preference, but I wouldn't want to start with anything wooden, either. My body considers wooden implements to be for punishment only.

It’s great to see you again, Abby! We missed you.

Mina: As a first purchase, I would recommend a leather paddle. It should be something simple and capable of giving both gentle and harder spankings so you can get the feel of it and build up your experience.

I wouldn't recommend a cane, but that is just me. It is not something I would want to feel or use so early, but something to grow into to.

The thing is there are so many great pervertables that you can spend so much time just using them. Many can ensure a rosy bottom for any enthusiast.

Prefectdt: Taking the scenario in the question, I would recommend that they invest in a good quality, medium weight leather flogger. These can be difficult to use at first, but it will help the spanker develop delivery skills. Like all new things, it is best to start off lightly and work up to the spankee's limit. It is a shame that good floggers are expensive, but they are a good skill development toy with limited risks for the spankee.

I would also recommend that they get the book Screw the Roses, Send Me the Thorns. It is a little dated, but offers good, sound, practical advice without over-concentrating on the psychological side of things, as some reference books do.

Dr. Ken: I would send them straight to the London Tanners site. :-)

For a new couple, I'd definitely recommend something made of leather for their first implement (or implements). Jumping into something wooden, such as wood paddles or hairbrushes, might be a little harsh for newbies. A nice piece of leather – one that can be used OTK – should send them spankily on their way into the next phase of their exploration. Perhaps a nice ruler strap would do the trick...

I most certainly would NOT recommend that they get a cane. It takes a lot of practice to use one properly, and at this stage of their play, I think a cane would be a disaster...

Zille Defeu: A leather slipper (or rubber-soled light shoe) makes a really excellent spanking implement, and slippers can be left lying around without needing an awkward explanation!

The "My First Bondage" kits you can get in sex stores on-line and in many towns can be very good (or can be useless pieces of crap, so buying from people like Babes in Toyland or Good Vibrations is best recommended!)

Exploring with blindfolds and the like can be quite exciting for the newbie as well!

Michelle: There are so many perfectly acceptable pervertables that by the time a couple is ready to move on, they may not be novices any more. ;-p

For several years, my husband just used his hands and that was quite fun.

Then we moved on to wooden rulers (which I don't like very much as the one we have stings like the dickens and leaves welts), ping pong paddles (the one we have makes really good noises, loud and smacky, but didn't really provide much in the way of sensation (light and stingy, no matter how hard the wallop)), and belts (leather is better and be careful of how the edges are finished, they can leave welts).

The first implement I bought for my husband to use on me was a riding crop. I wanted something fairly discrete (it is easy to tuck out of sight), that had the potential to be both stingy and thuddy, and wasn't terribly expensive.

I found one that was less than $10 from Amazon. I got one of the ones for horses because, honestly, I couldn't see paying twice as much for the same thing because it was something for "spanking enthusiasts."

Since spanking for us is primarily about the sensation and secondarily about the submission, I opt for implements that can give a variety of sensations. The flogger that we just got is really nice. It can be soft and caressing, almost tickling, stinging, or thuddy, depending upon how it's used.

If the couple enjoys other aspects (the visual, discipline, role play) or other sensations (really stingy, thuddy, loud, etc.), other implements work better. Find the implement that gets you excited and go with it.

I encourage them to look around. There are lots of places, especially on-line, where you can find decent implements that don't cost all that much.

Loki Darksong: I'll add a vote for paddles as a first true spanking toy purchase. Leather is preferred if you can afford a good one. Avoid those with a bar running through the middle of it or the like. London Tanners has some good ones, but do shop around. There is a site, Nancy's Basement, that has a few good leather paddles for about $10.

Now if you want to try wood, I suggest a paddle of thin to medium thickness and without holes. There is no need to leave bruises if you don't have to.

Oh, and for the book choices, The Compleat Spanker by Lady Green and, if you can find this one, The Essential Guide to the Practice of Corporal Punishment (or How Do I Get my Partner Interested in Spanking) by Lucy Bailey should be on the shopping list.

Welcome, Loki! I’m delighted you joined us for brunch and shared your wisdom. The Lucy Bailey book unfortunately appears to be out of print, but if anyone knows where it can be found, I will post that information.

Todd and Suzy: Our first spanking only implement was a wood paddle. There were several reasons why we picked it. We had nothing else like it in our pervertable collection. Wood paddles had been the thing that most meant 'a spanking' to us while growing up (school paddles, at home, etc.) and we wanted something for real discipline spankings.

If this couple were similar to us, they'd get a wood paddle. But if they were more into playful spankings, I might recommend a leather paddle. For erotic play, maybe a flogger. Or maybe something like a cane would work for them (especially if they were British).

So, it really does depend. We'd say talk it out, and, really, don't be afraid to try things out. After the first, will come a second and third... and so on. So if something doesn't really work as was hoped, it’s no biggie.

Ronnie: Not knowing what they have actually used, I would suggest the leather paddle. Look for one that is supple and flexible, but not too big.

Or they might consider a nice, small leather flogger. It can give so much pleasure in different ways depending upon how it’s used.

Dante d'Amore: How 'bout a 2x4? It would make sure future discipline problems were rare plus make anything else you ever used seem heavenly in comparison.

Dante, I think they were looking for something a bit more, uh, general purpose.

Iggy: I'm going to vote for a nice soft suede flogger because they are so yummy. You can even get the ones that are actually intended for breasts. They are shorter and smaller and therefore easier to use for an OTK type of scene since they don't need as much swinging room.

Bluquill: This was my question only a year ago! Three toys appear regularly today: the Boudoir paddle from London Tanners, a maple OTK paddle from Walt's, and the Beaver Tail leather paddle from Leather Thorn. Though they are both leather, the Boudoir and Beaver Tail paddles have quite different feels. The Boudoir is thinner, softer, and more flexible and therefore stingier. The Beaver Tail is thicker and stiffer and therefore thuddier. And, of course, the wood is another thing! All are easy to handle (or so I'm told!). I wouldn't want to give up any of them, and we've both enjoyed exploring the different sensations in different positions and scenarios!

Welcome, Bluquill, and thanks for sharing your suggestions!

Anon #2: I'm new to spanking, so my take on this topic might be different than others, but I would love to experience a wooden hairbrush. Something about the old-fashioned, more discipline aspects really appeal to me. My partner and I only do spanking for fun, not real discipline. But playing around with "punishment" for silly things is something we've enjoyed. So the hairbrush seems like a good one to try.

Daisy: I love the riding crop. As it only strikes with the tip, which flicks the skin, there is minimal noise, and only a tiny area of skin is stung each time, giving plenty of scope to cover the whole bottom! Also, there is something incredibly sexy about the crop...

Bonnie: Choosing a new implement is sort of like choosing a favorite position. There isn't really one that's best in all cases. I suggest improvisation and testing. In this instance, the scientific method can be a whole lot of fun. Quite naturally, some toys will be found to work better than others. In time, couples tend to discover some favorites implements and perhaps a few that might as well be pitched.

As others have mentioned, there are lots of pervertable implements available inexpensively in kitchen, bath, or craft stores. Think spanking, let your imagination go, and walk down the aisles. I suspect lots of good ideas will emerge.

It's also fun to have a spanking implement that was created for that purpose alone and is good for nothing else. I think owning such a toy makes one feel more like a dedicated spanking enthusiast. To start, I might suggest a leather paddle, such as those offered by Adam and Gillian. We've purchased a number of excellent spanking toys from them over the years.

Thank you, one and all, for your great suggestions!

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Sep 21

Our topic was canes and caning. Here are your thoughts.

D: I have never been caned. It looks very painful and from what I can see it leaves quite the impression for some time. I am curious and would like to try it at least once.

Brambleberry Blush: Canes?! The marks alone are enough to convince me that I couldn't take it, but I felt that way about big paddles a year ago too. So who knows? Maybe I will someday.

Jai: No! I hate the cane! I got out of a bad relationship with an ex-boyfriend who abused the cane and, through that, abused me. Now that I've connected with an official Dom, he knows that I have a fear of the cane. So far, he hasn't said he would use it on me.

Maybe in the future, I can allow myself to be caned again, but for the time being, I can't handle the cane or the emotions it would bring up.

Anon #1: I've been caned. I could take a few strokes, but not all that many (maybe 20). I preferred it to the large wooden paddle he had and it was a welcome break from his rubber paddle. I always find that a change can really make a difference, even if it is to another ouchy item.

Todd: I went many, many years without ever using a cane. It's something I wasn't exposed to growing up. I didn't even know what it was until I found spanking on the internet. Even then, my spanking partners had no interest in canes. That was probably for the same reason – they weren't exposed to canes growing up in the US. Paddles, belts and hairbrushes are far, far more common.

A couple of years ago, at our first spanking party, Suzy and I got to watch a caning scene live. It was pretty interesting, and something that Suzy wanted to experience. I have to admit though that it still wasn't my thing. The idea of 'crossing lines' or causing a cut kind of freaked me out.

So... Suzy had some sessions at parties with experienced tops. I picked up some tips and got more comfortable with it. A few months ago, we ordered some canes from Cane-iac. We bought several different types including classic rattan school-type canes to some pretty harsh synthetic ones.

We have played several times with them, and I have enjoyed myself (as has Suzy). I do keep it light though. No more than pushing to the edge of moderate. I just don't want to cause an injury.

The fact remains that canes still aren't a part of my 'spanking DNA.' I just don't have that connection with them. They're good for having some fun, and I will continue to use them from time to time. But they'll never be “my thing.”

Em: We play with canes fairly regularly, though not as often as some of our other toys.

Jack's technique with the cane has always been more a series of light to moderate strokes very quickly. I am intrigued by the more traditional "six of the best" type caning and I would love to have a go at one sometime.

I will say that our cane is pretty ordinary. We don't have any super fancy ones. We did have a few acrylic canes once, but the thin one broke on me the first time we used it. Despite the sales lady assuring me that they don't break, I know one other couple who broke one, so they haven't made an appearance in our toy box since. Hmm... Maybe that sales lady needs a caning? *grin*

Heather: I've never been caned. I'm too scared of it. Even if my husband knew about caning, he understands that marks bring back horrible memories of an ex-boyfriend bruising me during a spanking. What happened when he bruised me was that the abuse and marks in any form became etched in my brain as something I never wanted again. While I have not given up my desire to be spanked, I certainly never want to be marked.

RPT: We have a collection of canes, conventional rattan and one nasty Lexan.

We play with them often. They are painful, but we like the marks they leave and the after-effects last for a while, which we also like.

Sometimes I just want a hard spanking and a cane does that beautifully.

Dragonmage: I got a small (cheap) rattan cane from a local shop when Luvbunny and I started exploring spanking. She hated it at first, but as I practised (on a pillow and on her ass), I got better at controlling the cane. She loves it now, so much so that I recently acquired a thicker (and nicer) rattan cane to add to the thin rattan and acrylic canes we already had.

Mrs. Smith: We have never used an actual cane, but we have used a blind twist. I HATE that thing and it is reserved for really bad occasions.

Another experience I had with a cane-like object was with a riding crop. One day, Scott and I were wrestling for it and the little leather tip ripped off. It was left as just a long skinny rod with a handle.

He used it on me a lot before he left for basic. It worked for play, for punishment, and for everything. I absolutely LOVED it. I never thought I would say that about any cane type object, but it just hurt oh so good!

I love it.

Impishh1: No cane for me! I'm the spanko, so there's no chance of my husband wanting to try one on his own. Just to make sure he keeps it straight, I tell him, "no sticks, no sticks!" That way, there's no confusion and no canes, switches, or rods of any kind! Since we do fun spanking, the whole point is to spare the rod and spoil the... well, me.

Prefectdt: I love being caned and cannot get enough of it. The great thing about canes (rattan type) is that every cane has a slightly different effect and combined with every spanker having a different style, means that every caning is (although similar) a unique experience.

The fun does not stop with the caning. Walking around after a hard caning creates a wonderful sensation in the buttocks.

For anyone new to caning, I would recommend that you try it a few times before deciding if it is for you or not. The cane is an implement that can take some getting used to.

Dr. Ken: I've never used a cane, and I don't think I ever will. In spite of its reputation as an English disciplinary tool, it just never seemed like a "spanking" implement to me.

OliviaManners: The cane is an implement that commands a lot of respect from me.

More than most other implements, I feel that it captivates us both into a certain timelessness. That is because the pace of the cane is different. It can be used with quick, sharp, stinging strokes, but more often, it is the slow, deliberate placing of each stripe, the pause between each one, the sense of a longer gaze at my bottom as he admires his work and decides where to place the next.

It is often used in my discipline sessions as the penultimate, the most formal, and the most eye-widening upon the mention of it or the sound of it swishing behind me. Oddly, it doesn't hurt me the most (that will be the plimsoll :( ), and yet, I still feel most disciplined by it.

Outside of discipline, it is also the implement that takes me most readily to the core of my submission, with an almost sacrificial quality to it. I feel bared, enduring, open, incredibly strong, and offering of myself.

The positions required for the cane are often amongst the most embarrassing and the feeling of a finger tip trailing over a fresh welt is delicious. Then, of course, there are the lasting stripes to remind you and connect you. So, if I hadn't already made it clear, I love the cane!

P.S. A friend of mine who had tried the cane once and really disliked it a few years back, recently was encouraged to try it again by someone new. He felt the reason she may have disliked the feelings was because it was being done too *lightly*. Sure enough, when he gave her a few more purposeful ones, it prompted a different sensation, with a deeper bite, that somehow just felt bearable. Now she wants to experience it more!

Helpmegrow aka HMG: My only cane experience is through reading stories and website accounts of real punishments. I have to admit that to me they are very scary things indeed. Even so I would someday like to experience it and eventually "six of the best." At this point, however, I have no idea how I would respond. Perhaps it would work as a strongly needed discipline. A girl can dream.

D & S: Yes, but we treat the cane with great respect. A heavy cane, used hard on a bare bottom will cause serious damage, and even bleeding. We use a light swishy cane about 30" long and not too hard. D tries to keep his elbow into his side, as they do in some Arabic states, which limits the force. We also very rarely cane on the bare. S wears thin jeans, stretched drum tight, and says she thinks it stings more like this, as the bottom beneath them is held so tightly, but does give some protection against long term bruising, and the cane makes a lovely 'thwack' on the tight denim. She loves to feel the stripes still tingling her bottom the next day, or making her fidget on her chair.

PK: None of my fantasies ever included the cane when I was growing up. I like something wide and flat. Since I am the spanko, I doubt Nick would decide to try it with out my suggestion. He has used the shaft of the crop and I didn't like it too much. He switched me once and while it hurt like the dickens. I would be willing to try it again in moderation. There were a few marks, but I liked them. If Nick did decide he wanted to try a cane, I would be willing to at least give it a try.

Jim: For me, the cane is champagne!

Suzanne: For me, the cane is the ultimate punishment. Just my husband mentioning it is enough to straighten me out REAL quick. In our house, it’s only used for really bad punishments. Although I hate it, I have to admit that it does put me back in that submissive state that my husband demands of me.

Paul: Mel hated the cane for punishment, but loved it for scenes. It was the marks she loved. Many times I would catch her in the bedroom admiring her marks or unconsciously running her fingers over the marks with a smile. I had to ration her canings or else her bottom would never heal.

Soma: I don't think I will ever try the cane. It scares the hell out of me. I'm not sure why. If it were ever used, I'm sure it would only be for very, very serious punishments. But the person who spanks me now has never used the cane, and like me, he doesn't have an interest in using it either. Maybe it's not as bad as I think it is, but just the reactions of spankee's in the few video clips I've seen are enough to scare me away from it.

PM Duo: We've never used a cane. I have to admit that I'm curious and would probably be willing to give it a try. However, it scares me a little! I kind of doubt that I could ever get him to use one. He worries about marks and pain despite my repeated assurances that I love both!

Hermione: We have never used a cane. I am curious and would like to try it, although I might be sorry I did. I have read many enthusiastic reports about them, most notably how Abby Learned to Love the Cane. I think that if I got the cane after being very well warmed up, I might enjoy it.

When I asked Ron what his thoughts were regarding caning, he said it had never occurred to him, and that it would probably deliver more pain than I would really want. He couldn't imagine beating me with a rigid walking stick. He did say it was up to me and if it was something I really wanted to try he would go along with it.

But do I or don't I?

Anon #2: My wife and I actually have three different canes, a light one, and two heavier ones. We are very careful in how we use them. Used properly, they need not be dangerous or even uncomfortable! The effect can be just delightfully stingy if you use them lightly – especially a number of light, quick strokes with the light cane.

We have shared our techniques with some couples with whom we play with and no one has found them objectionable when used correctly.

When my wife is in the mood for stronger or heavier play, canes are very effective. They also have such a strong history that their use adds greatly to the psychological aspects of spanking play!

Raheretic: I've used canes a good bit and have a collection of canes and rods of a variety of materials, thicknesses, and lengths. My favorites are Deluxe Canes of select rattan, with the excellent treatment Adam & Gillian’s uses to prepare them. I have had a lot of success with delryn canes too.

My swan had never been caned when we first met. One of our most momentous early sessions was her first caning. I'd played with her head for weeks in advance of the caning (we were in a long distance relationship then). When the time came, I was (uncharacteristically) merciful. She was actually disappointed. The experience had not lived up to the "build up" I'd given it. It had been anti-climactic for her. It was very early on in our relationship. I didn't want to risk so severely traumatizing her that she felt it was unsafe to continue with me. The next time we were together I flayed her bottom for her so that she never complained about the laxness of a caning again.

Swan has come to love the cane, and if we go too long between canings, she will begin to long to have her bottom striped again. I usually work some amount of caning in most of our spankings, and sometimes caning is the essence of the event.

Recently we lost our favorite cane to breakage. swan led the way in our search of the Internet for a suitable replacement. Finally securing a worthy cane from Adam & Gillian’s, she was thrilled until I switched in the air. Then she assumed that tremendously paradoxical visage that somehow combines blushing lust, excitement, consternation, and terror. I had her undress immediately so we could resolve her dilemma. :)

Our Bottoms Burn: I am frankly surprised that so many readers of MBS have a fear of the cane. Sure it can be a terror, but it does not have to be. I think a single tail whip is something to be feared more than a cane. While I don’t think most readers of MBS are into real pain, I know a cane can be used with awe-inspiring effect for both parties. Try a short whippy cane. Swoosh!

Eliane: I really don't like the cane much. It's a very intense kind of a pain, but I like the marks afterwards ;-) Then again, I could probably say that about most stuff I'm spanked with!

Greenwoman: I've tentatively tried a few times with my husband. He's been very gentle with these early experiments. The jury is still out for me. I think I'd like to try it someone with someone who's really got a love for canes. I have taken note that people who really love to spank with an implement tend to use it quite masterfully. My husband isn't partial to it, so I doubt he'll get to that place with it that I'd like to experience before I fully make up my mind about it. Mostly, I think that it might deliver more pain than I can handle.

Cookie: I don't particularly like the cane at all. I do enjoy watching canes being used in the videos or others, but I hate having one used on me for more then just a few playful swats. Although the cane actually doesn't have the same effect as a brush, I feel that is worse because the effects last longer and it can be given longer and harder. I am not sure though, but if I had the choice, I’d rather take a cane stroke then one from a brush.

Daisy: My ex came home very drunk one night and in a bad mood. Let’s just say canes are a terrifying memory for me.

But, with my new sweetheart, I would trust him to use one without causing damage, and almost look forward to the ghost being laid to rest...

Radha: We have a couple of canes, but I've only been swatted with them on a couple of occasions. I do like the after-effects! And he likes the stripes. But, I have to admit that they don't come out as much as I'd like. They do seem scary and I think that's what I like about it.

P.S. It's so lovely to read such varied responses!

Elle: I used to fantasise about canes a lot. Growing up in the UK, it was always something of a topic for discussion and I remember some of my earliest spanking fantasies and experiments were with caning as a focus rather than "spanking."

However, I seem to have grown out of it. Previous partners used canes and I enjoyed it, but my boyfriend now would never dream of using something as painful as the cane on me. I really do prefer his hand or belt and his playful style. I wouldn't really want him to cane me as it would change the dynamic of our relationship. I like the way we are. I don't need the cane.

Carye: Yes we have tried it, but only over clothes. PS is too worried about breaking the skin with such a thin implement. It was too stingy for what I like best, but I did like that the warmth lasted for a long time!

Bonnie: As Todd says, the cane wasn’t part our spanking lore during our formative years here in the US. When I was first exposed to the concept of caning, it was through various spanking publications and later on the Internet. The depiction in those venues was frequently savage and punitive. I vividly recall photographs of unfortunate young women whose grotesque welts bordered on disfigurement.

I carried this vision with me for a number of years. I wouldn’t have considered accepting even a single stroke, let alone an entire session. Then I started talking with caning enthusiasts. As I probably should have realized, there is a whole spectrum of severity levels, just as with any serious implement. The cane can be brutal to be sure, but so can a paddle. But in the right hands, a cane can also be quite sensual.

Our cane was selected with precisely this in mind. It’s short and light. I imagine it might break if Randy were to crank back and swing it like a tennis racket. His technique consists of a large number of repetitive short, quick, snapping strikes. It’s more than a tap, but less than a blow. The effect for me intensifies as he continues. Within a few minutes, I achieve a delicious stinging glow. There are no visible stripes, just some redness and warmth to the touch. It’s painful, but certainly not excruciatingly so.

We don’t use the cane often. It’s more of a change of pace implement for us, but it’s definitely part of our repertoire.

Thank you all for an excellent discussion. I hope you'll join us again when we reconvene next Sunday.