Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for May 5

Our topic this week was whether wet bottom spankings hurt more. Here are your observations.

Sunny Girl: I've heard it said, but I haven't experienced it.

Realblueyes: I can assure you that it does hurt more, especially if you are just out of a nice warm shower. Big difference!

Minelle Labraun: I know that even if I am dry, a shower or bath first makes a spanking way more intense. However, I would imagine that wet is more painful.

Simon: For some reason it does, whether it's just that your bottom is more sensitive or some other reason I don't know. It's not just water either. Sometimes, my Mistress massages my bottom before punishing it and the oils make the first set of strokes agonising. I don't protest, though, because I love the gentle contact and sensual rubbing before the serious business of punishment.

Abby Williams: This is completely true! I prefer to impose a waiting period between a shower/bath and a spanking, though I don't always win out. Our apartment gets very humid after a shower, so there is just no drying off right away.

Another absurdly painful thing is a spanking over moisturizer. Mr. W was curious about spanking me with a wet-from-lotion bottom. We tried it with hand spanking, a strap, and a junior cane. It feels, I imagine, like being shot. Each stroke went straight to my heart. I finally let myself slide off the bed, onto my knees to the floor, and - um - initiated other activities to make it stop. It was weirdly painful and doesn't make a lick of sense to me, but it's definitely to be avoided. Lotion for aftercare only! Though it was a rather amusing reminder that we need a good leather oil/protector. I can't imagine Aveeno is good for that.

Jean Marie: OMG, it's so much more painful on my wet bottom! I have no idea why, but remember when Sheldon spanked Amy on "Big Bang Theory" on TV? Those guys could do another episode investigating why... I would love it if Leonard spanked Penny! But it'd give my boyfriend ideas, and I'd certainly get it good after the show concluded.

Lil Misses: Umm. That's one I don't intend to try. It makes perfect sense as to why it would hurt more. Ouch! I hope Hubby never gets any ideas.

Chelsea: I've heard that it does, but thankfully I've never experienced that and I hope I never do.

Joeyred: This would be an excellent topic for Myth Busters.

I love it, Joey! In fact, they could do a whole show around the theme of spanking myths. Holes or no holes in paddles, are swats on the thighs effective for suppressing kicking, and does thin underwear really provide any meaningful protection at all?

Prefectdt: It does hurt more, but I don't know why. My Chamois leather flogger (that can only be used wet) makes a right royal mess too, spraying water everywhere.

Jenny: A thin layer of water greatly improves the direct hand to bottom contact, and the surface tension of water improves the pulling away force that creates much of the sting. (Compare a slap that pulls away quickly with one that continues to press). Water fills every little nook and cranny of bottom skin and transmits force very effectively.

I've only had a few wet-bottom swats, purely in the name of spanking science. And they did hurt much more than dry swats.

Archedone: Spanking after a shower would sting more because the hot water wakes up the nerve ends. Like the others, I don't know why water makes the spanking sting more, but it does. I've had a few spankings where my wife sprayed my cheeks before using each implement and the sting was much more intense.

The Canery: I will have to investigate this one further. Research required.

S: After a really hot bath, my hot wet steamy bottom enjoys a good spanking, leaving me with a sexy glowing rear, but a cold bottom after a swim in the sea or a cold bath, definitely enhances the sting a lot. I don't know why. I once fell fully clothed into our pool. It was mid winter and the pool was icy. D fished me out, marched me back to the house, and bent me over me kitchen table before attacking the soaking wet seat of my jeans with his wooden paddle for my clumsiness. That hurt like hell, and I was soon yelling for mercy. It also left my bottom sore and marked for some time.

Hermione: We hadn't really explored this before, so after I read the brunch topic, Ron and I experimented. The results are conclusive: Yes, it hurts a lot more!

Ronnie: Yes, it definitely hurts more. Big difference. I'm not sure why.

Bonnie: I haven't done any scientific reasearch (one control cheek stays dry while the other side is wet?), but it sure seems to hurt more. I can't explain the reason, so I'll go with Jenny's theory.

I think that's just about unanimous. Spankings do indeed hurt more when delivered to a wet bottom. I really appreciate your willingness to sacrifice in the name of science. See you next weekend!

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Sept 5

Our question of the week dealt with why wet spankings hurt more. Here are your inspired responses.

Our Bottoms Burn: Yes. I have given a few wet spankings and the spankees all said it stung more. I was given a wet bottom spanking and I think it had more sting.

You really need a helper with a squirt bottle, to quickly re-wet after every paddle pop.

Dioneo: I'm guessing that it has to do with how vibrations are less attenuated by water than by air. Think about how sounds carry further underwater. Now imagine that the sound wave as an implement colliding with a derriere. I would think the stronger vibrations are what makes it sting more, but this is all speculative.

Dano: Water tenderizes the tushy and the nerves in the skin are more sensitive.

Anne: Fisher thinks that on dry skin the air in the pores acts like an air shock on a car. Therefore, when you smack the bottom the air comes out and buffers the blow. When the skin is wet, the liquid fills the pores, removing the air which would act as the shock absorber. In addition, when the wet bottom is hit, the liquid compresses expanding the pores and increasing the nerve contact and so increasing the intensity of the feeling. That's our story and we're sticking to it!

Barely Pink: Previous posters are exactly right. The water opens the pores in the bottom, and these water-filled pores are conductors of vibration. With the water present, nerves are more receptive as well. So the whole experience is a lot more ouchy because of greater vibrations and a greater perception of pain.

D is a fan of keeping a spray bottle nearby. That evil, evil man.

Rich: Air is compressible, but water isn't. So, the energy from the hand goes straight through the water to the skin underneath, but air trapped between the hand and the bottom is compressed and absorbs some of the energy.

Of course, that takes all the romance out of it.

We should probably just agree to conclude that a wet spanking is "hotter" than one on dry skin. Maybe it's just a little kinkier. Splosh!

Michael: I think that the answer might be found within a consideration of kinetic energy and thermal conductivity. When the paddle, say, hits the bottom there is a transfer of kinetic energy into work and heat energy. The work energy moves the mass of the bottom flesh forward (flattening it) and squashes the air molecules between the skin and the blade creating a pressure wave which creates a sound (the smack). The heat energy created is transferred to the skin which raises the temperature and creates electrical energy which is transferred to the nerves under the skin.

The question thus relates to how much heat energy is transferred to the bottom compared to the work energy, out of the total kinetic energy. The skin is made up of lots of small points on the surface (the summits of the skin) and lots of depressions (the pores) and the surface area of the bottom is the total of the summits of the skin and of the areas of the depressions. There is a limited amount of summit area which is vastly increased if you add the surface of the depressions. So to transfer the heat energy effectively into the bottom you want to maximise the area exposed to the heat energy and ensure that there is high thermal conductivity in the surface.

The summits made of skin have good thermal conductivity (0.58 W/mC) and the paddle contacts directly with these summits so the energy is transferred efficiently. The transfer to the depressions has to take place firstly through the air filling the depression before it reaches the skin surface in the pore. Air has a low unit of thermal conductivity (0.024W/mC) so the transfer through air to the skin surface in the depression is poor and the whole surface of the bottom will be not receive as much transfer of heat as is possible from the overall kinetic energy in the spank. If the bottom is wetted the depressions fill with water which has a better unit of thermal conductivity of 0.6 W/mC (a bit higher than skin itself). So a good deal more heat energy will reach the skin surface in the depressions and the overall transfer of heat from the paddle is much larger. The bottom heats up considerably more and thus the spanking is more severe.

On a less scientific note the addition of glycerine to the water is said to further increase the heat of the paddling, possible because the glycerine adheres to the pore trapping the water molecules for longer and delaying evaporation.

Scunge: For me, it DOESN'T! We have tried on several occasions. My bottom, wet or dry, feels the same impact. It could be because I have a chronic disease called fibromyalgia, or it could be because I am just WEIRD!

Ronnie: Not being scientifically minded in the least, I don't have a clue. But I have to agree with the questioner. They do hurt more, but they're kind of sexy. The swats make a unique sound and the circumstances are typically different as well. Overall, wet spankings are yummy.

Keiter: On the one hand, this science behind the specialized spanking of a wet bottom is interesting. On the other hand, I really don't care why. The question made me realize that it had been far too long since this exquisite form of punishment had been utilized. I greeted my lover with breakfast in bed this morning (another thing I hadn't done for her in too long a time).

"And when you're done with eating, I'm gonna give you a bath..." I mentioned.

"I prefer showers," she replied foggily.

"I know, but this morning you'll take a bath, and stand up during it for repeated wet bottom spankings."

"Yes, sir," she smiled.

Thank you for the scientific insight. THANK YOU for the suggestion!

I salute your relentless pursuit of scientific knowledge!

Daisy: I hated science at school. Therefore, my answer is not scientific.

They just DO, OK?

I am now in awe of your readers, Bonnie, talking about kinetic whassamajig, compressions, vibrations and stuff!

Susan: These answers are very scientific, and probably right, but as a recipient I find that the temperature of the water counts. Having been scooped out of a bath many times, my hot, wet bottom does not seem to be any more sensitive to a spanking. However, the sound of palm on bum seems to be louder, and there is the added hazard of nearby hair or bath brushes!

Cold bottoms are a different matter and definitely sting far more. I suppose the nerve endings are more sensitive if I have just come out of the sea, or had an ice cold cloth applied to my rear before the spanking. After swimming, I am probably wearing a swim suit or bikini, and if this is wet it really hugs my cheeks, and I might as well be bare.

On one smarting occasion, I was wearing a thin cotton pair of tennis shorts in our garden. D made me bend over a deck chair, sprayed my bottom with the hose, and then attacked it with a table tennis bat.

I danced around the garden like a dervish after that, clutching my super smarting ice cold cheeks.

R Humphries: I am not of a scientific bent, so I am reliant upon MBJ to provide insight and observation regarding such phenomena. After all, she is the one on the receiving end. She tells me that wet spankings do not necessarily hurt more, but they have a different and entirely unique sensation.

She also informs me that during the immediate aftermath of being caned across silk pyjamas, the heat actually appears to increase rather than decrease. I have no idea of the validity of such sage observations. Perhaps the solution is for the community at large to commission a modern day equivalent of Jean Henri Fabre to conduct experimental research into matters of such import. I am sure that there would be no shortage of volunteers to act as research participants. Otherwise, I suppose we could just pour another glass of wine and continue to ponder such mysteries.

Make Mine Red: I have no idea as to the "why." I had never really thought about it much. I haven't been spanked on a wet bottom since I was 4 years old, but boy, do I remember that one well! We might have to try it again one day. Thanks for the idea!

Barbarossa: One possibility is that a wet bottom is colder, either because cold water was used to make it that way or because wet skin loses heat faster. It's well known that being hit hurts more in the cold. American footballers often comment on this.

Bonnie: If I knew the answer, I wouldn't have asked! However, I have observed that the wet spanking ouch seems to be primarily a surface of the skin phenomenon. This seems to support theories about the water adhering to the skin and transferring the force more efficiently.

Another possible answer in swimming or bathing situations is that the water softens the skin and increases its sensitivity. But as I said, I don't know.

Thank you, everyone, for sharing your scientific know-how!

Recap: MBS Sunday Brunch for Apr 22

Hello again, everyone. Please excuse the dampness, but it simply can't be helped. Our brunch topic today was wet spankings. Here are your thoughts.

Galros: The ex and I used to go for the wet spanking thing. For some reason, the sight of me getting out of the bath covered in bubbles seemed to engage the spanko gear in his brain! The thing was that he never accounted for the fact that it HURT a lot more! LOL

But in saying that, it was always enjoyable for both of us. It nearly always led to the need for another bath or shower! Plus, I don't think I ever shared a shower with him either without getting a red bum either! It was great fun, even with the added pain!

Fer: Wet spankings are very special. I have a young spankee friend who very much enjoys a fantasy involving the beach, a wet bikini, and being whipped with a flexible branch from a plant that grows in the dunes.

Tigger: Yes, my hubby and I have tried wet spankings, and I loved it! He's spanked me while we were in the shower, and then also rubbed my bottom down with water. It definitely intensifies the sting!

Padme: We have tried wet spanking and we enjoy it a lot. Master Anakin has also wet his belt down for the "wet belt technique," as he calls it. It brings up better bruising and makes for a harder spanking. I've been spanked in the bathtub before and also leaning over the hot tub with a wet bottom.

Paul: What can I say? Mel often came out of the bath or shower with a red butt.

A good girl spanking stung just that bit more and turned her on just that bit more when her arse was wet. It was very satisfying.

As it's criminal to wet a good Scottish tawse, so we never did wet our leather implements.

Susan: Yes – OW! D decided I needed a spanking while we were swimming in the sea. He towed me out of the water, sat on a rock, put me over his knee, and gave the seat of my thin, wet bathing suit (we had been surfing, so no bikini) a long and sound spanking. It was murder, as in "My Bottom Smarts” times three. What made it worse were the unmistakable thunderclaps, which I am sure could be heard further down the beach. When the spanking was over, he put me back in the sea, where my rear just sizzled in the cold water. Later, I told him how much it had stung, and he admitted that his palm got pretty sore too which was some consolation.

A while later, I was BBU, OTK, and awaiting my fate. Instead of his spanking hand, a cold damp sponge landed on my bottom. It was well wetted and chilled. Then he took the hairbrush to me, not wanting to hurt his poor little hand. If the sea spanking was MBS times three, this was times five at least!

He once fished me out of the bath for a spanking, hot and wet, with water flying everywhere. But that was far less lethal.

Reesa: I've been spanked in the shower for fun many times. But once when I was taking a bath, he made me get out for a spanking. I can't even remember what I'd screwed up that time, but it sure did hurt like blazes! Water most definitely adds to the sting.

Mary: It seems we bottoms all agree that the wet adds to the sting. However, spanking after a hot tub is fun and after a swim…

My absolute favorite was a "staged" scene where I was pulled out of the shower when he walked in on me masturbating. I was pulled out soaking wet. The hotel bathroom had a large soft fluffy rug to prevent slipping. That was a very important feature since I was dripping wet. He scolded me and had me bend over the bathroom counter. There was a large mirror so I was able to see the whip in his hand. It is a soft, multi-stranded whip that makes a LOT of noise and sounds scary. It has a bit of weight so I feel the force of impact, but the sting on dry skin is not so bad. On wet skin, there was more sting, but the brush of air over my wet skin and the sound and the jolt from it hitting my body was sublime for a spanko like me.

The implement has been tested enough to know that it is not likely to cause injury, so he used it over every inch of my body including my thighs, buttocks, back, breasts, and pussy. He scolded me and continued until my skin was dried from all the "fanning" the whip had created. It was a delicious interlude - just enough sting and impact to make me moan, but not enough to cause any harm. My skin tingled all over when he was done.

Southern Angel: JD has given me several wet-bottom spankings. He has spanked me in the shower, in a pool, and has even wet my bottom with a sponge before spanking me. I am not much into these type of spankings because they sting so much! Being spanked in the shower doesn't seem as bad, I think because the shower spray cushions the swats. But don't tell JD. I've told him it hurts just as much!

Bonnie: Randy figured out early in our relationship that wetting my bottom before a spanking intensifies the experience. Since then, he has leveraged this knowledge countless times and in many ways. He loves the sound of the impact and the way I react. Now the very act of wearing a towel or a bathing suit is often enough to earn me a spanking.

Sometimes, he joins me in the shower for washing, spanking, and more. We have a stout wooden brush hanging in there and it’s not reserved for hygiene. These are always festive events, though I inevitably emerge with a very red bottom.

So, for all my grousing, do I enjoy wet spankings? Of course I do!

Pixiepie: I had a wet spanking once right after a cold shower (I was in big trouble that day...I don't remember why, Oh wait, Yes I do...). Anyway, it wasn't pleasant.

Thanks, everyone for adding your impressions and experiences with wet spankings. I think we can all agree that a bit of moisture translates into a lot of extra sting!

I look forward to seeing you all here next week for another spanko brunch.

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